tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post4831661721690634293..comments2023-11-08T14:24:06.331-08:00Comments on RawforLife Blog: Raw Food And HayfeverDebbie Tookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-39959267032562449792015-12-23T22:26:45.237-08:002015-12-23T22:26:45.237-08:00Interesting, that going raw temporarily still help...Interesting, that going raw temporarily still helped. Thanks Gina!Debbie Tookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-15126795287628151902015-12-23T15:43:02.787-08:002015-12-23T15:43:02.787-08:00Hi! I just wanted to comment a little on your the...Hi! I just wanted to comment a little on your theory. It sounds good, but several years back, I had a bit of a different experience. I went raw for two months one year. At the earliest, I started eating entirely raw about weeks before spring allergy season (my worst). The whole two months I felt great! I don't remember having any detox type symptoms, I just remember having no allergy symptoms (and mine are SEVERE...not that I'll die from them, just EXTREMELY miserable when I have them.) I also didn't get sick in spite of being around people with terrible cold/flu symptoms. Anyway, just wanted to add this thought to perhaps help some who may be getting a late start on their allergy season :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10116368009963175543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-40256464369472064202015-12-20T23:00:23.870-08:002015-12-20T23:00:23.870-08:00So good to hear, Brad! Have a great Christmas, an...So good to hear, Brad! Have a great Christmas, and best wishes for another hay-fever-free summer.Debbie Tookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-35459883821920267192015-12-20T22:52:03.137-08:002015-12-20T22:52:03.137-08:00Hi there
Very interesting…. OK first i have suffe...Hi there<br /><br />Very interesting…. OK first i have suffered from extreme hay fever for as long as i can remember.<br />I have pretty much hated summer my whole life, those wing hot days put me into a state of not wanting to leave the house<br />and i was also able to do a box of tissues a day EASILY !!!<br />Then i stopped drinking milk as i heard the protein in milk can cause allergies. The next day red cheeks and sneezing gone by 80 % .<br />About 12 months later i started a vegan diet and what do you know hay fever gone by 95 % after 3 weeks.<br />To me it seems to be dairy that has been my enemy all of this time.<br />Before all of my changes i ate and drank a lot of milk and cheese!!!!<br />So now i am totally converted !!<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11971859991408757294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-55563570129122376782010-06-06T05:20:39.287-07:002010-06-06T05:20:39.287-07:00Hi Chang-Yu
Thank you for commenting (good to hea...Hi Chang-Yu<br /><br />Thank you for commenting (good to hear from you!).<br /><br />I'll stick to my belief, as per Natural Hygiene theory, that it's general inflammation of our mucus membranes caused by toxic substances that's the TRUE CAUSE of hayfever, which means that the insides of our nostrils/corners of eyes will be extra sensitive to any irritants, eg pollen, that those who are less sensitive won't react to.<br /><br />The problem with agricultural sprays being a CAUSE of hayfever is that those who do experience hayfever often find it's just as bad in the middle of big cities as in the country. Now big cities will have trees and flowers, but agricultural sprays are unlikely to be an issue.Debbie Tookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-22893490773306834702010-06-06T02:54:24.287-07:002010-06-06T02:54:24.287-07:00I've suspected something about fayfever for 5 ...I've suspected something about fayfever for 5 years. <br />It's likely more than one cause.<br /><br />April, May, June are the peak time for arigucultural chemicals sparys in England. Are pollens the true cuase for hayfever? Or the chemicals attached on the pollens are the real enemy?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12649921032437609235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-75741361229691430772009-07-21T01:51:44.108-07:002009-07-21T01:51:44.108-07:00Please note, everyone, in case anything I've s...Please note, everyone, in case anything I've said in replies to previous comments doesn't seem quite in line with the article, note that I have substantially changed the article since its first publication in Summer 08 to put a firm focus on the Natural Hygiene explanation of hayfever.Debbie Tookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-78940266701129466992009-07-02T08:14:34.245-07:002009-07-02T08:14:34.245-07:00Hi Jonas
I so want you to experience what I'm...Hi Jonas<br /><br />I so want you to experience what I'm experiencing now - a THIRD year (and hot hayfevery weather here right now!) without hayfever, and I'm even spending days gardening!<br /><br />The one thing that so often dejects people on improving their diets is that they then get ill! But this IS detoxing - lots of energy has been freed by the cessation of the constant onslaught of toxic matter, so the body, is, at last, free to conduct a significant 'elimination', resulting in symptoms, but then, after that's passed, is so much healthier. I think your worse-than-usual symptoms are due to two reasons. Big load of pollen (your walk and swim in the woods) facilitating a spectacular elimination of toxins today. And these would be an accumulation from hour cooked diet. I don't think you need be concerned too much about the odd bit of raw choc or non-organic food. And I certainly had plenty of the former in my first year of raw and still have plenty of non-organic fruit.<br /><br />I'd been raw for six months at the first pollen season, so, yes, I'd probably passed that stage where the body was still trying to find ways to offload an accumulation.<br /><br />Hope I didn't give the impression that any cure would be 'overnight' - I'll read through the article again and edit if necessary. <br /><br />Now, strange thing has happened - thought I saw something about considering fermented foods in your post, but now can't(did you edit?) Anyway, just to say I'm not into them and generally go with the Natural Hygiene line on these (www.rawfoodexplained.com, Lesson 69).<br /><br />Only other thing I'd say (and please forgive me if this doesn't apply to you, and I suspect NOT) - make sure '100% raw' isn't including coffee or any other 'substances'/supplements/medicines etc. And I should probably say that when I went raw I also stopped drinking alcohol pretty soon afterwards (even though wine is technically raw).<br /><br />Fasting - is an excellent way of cleaning, although of course it also happens to be the most efficient, eg the most accelerated way of cleaning, so could actually result in more symptoms initially, but...you'll have to weigh up the pro's and cons!<br /><br />Anyhow, very best wishes whatever you do, and, Jonas, please remember to report back to this page NEXT hay-fever season!Debbie Tookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-42340606265014480102009-07-02T07:31:55.326-07:002009-07-02T07:31:55.326-07:00My story - I've had very mild grass allergy sy...My story - I've had very mild grass allergy symptoms sporadically over the years, though so mild it's barely noticeable.<br /><br />Present moment...sitting in front of my computer, I've got a headache, fever chills, sneezing, and my nose has been running for three hours straight. Terrible. I've been 100% raw for one month now.<br /><br />I tend to agree with the thoughts expressed in this blog post, so in trying to explain my current condition, here's what I've come up with.<br /><br />1.My body could be trying to expel toxins from "bad" foods. I ate raw chocolate for the first time two days ago, and ended up feeling extremely sick. I've also had more non-organic food than usual.<br />Problem: While both raw cocoa and sprayed fruits may be suboptimal, I'm surprised if those alone caused such a drastic bodily reaction. (I've forever crossed chocolate off my good food list though)<br /><br />2.My body is using the angel dust, as you say, to facilitate expulsion of toxins as part of my general detox. Seeing as I'm new to raw and still detoxing (weakness and fatigue mostly), my body could be trying to use any and every method of getting rid of toxins. <br />Problem: The suddenness. I had symptoms of allergy throughout June, but today is unlike anything I've ever experienced.<br /><br />Another possible factor - went for a walk and swim in the woods last night and didn't shower right after. Could simply be a pollen overload.<br /><br />How long had you been raw before that first summer of minimal symptoms? I appreciate the message that a raw diet will eliminate allergies, but what if you start on raw right in the middle of allergy season? Your body would still have plenty of stored toxins to expel, right? I kind of got the impression from your post that going 100% raw would solve your problems overnight.<br /><br />In any case I'm considering a water fast to facilitate this process. Ack, it's not fun. But I have faith! Enjoy tumbling in the grass!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17540195309446653740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-48623574885210347952009-04-12T10:44:00.000-07:002009-04-12T10:44:00.000-07:00This is so good to hear, Jonny! I wish I'd discove...This is so good to hear, Jonny! I wish I'd discovered the power of raw to stop hayfever earlier in my life, as then I'd have discovered raw earlier, and...could have saved myself lots of other ailments that are so common nowadays. I feel so happy for you - when you next see someone suffering as you did, please tell them about this article, and your experience. Could just change their life (and we're not of course just talking hayfever here :-)).Debbie Tookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-62163092583449850332009-04-12T08:07:00.000-07:002009-04-12T08:07:00.000-07:00Here's a quick summary of my story... I didn't hav...Here's a quick summary of my story... I didn't have allergies until about 19. When they hit, they hit hard. I think it was mostly a grass allergy but it made life outside in the spring and summer hard, even when I was indoors sometimes. I thought they started because I had smoked for a few years (16-19) but after quitting the allergies continued. I figured I was stuck with them.<BR/><BR/>I tried all the over the counter stuff and considered shots. This recent winter I started eating more and more raw. I'd guess I eat around 70% or so?? <BR/><BR/>Well this summer I have no allergies...except after I eat cooked food. I know this seems too perfect, but if I have a cooked meal for dinner the next day I have light allergy symptoms. After a day of raw food they are pretty much gone again.<BR/><BR/>I have to experiment some more and see if I can narrow it down to specific foods but I can't tell you how pleased I am.<BR/><BR/>I'm already a huge raw fan...I love the extra energy and I'm digging the lower body fat too...and then to get rid of allergies to boot!<BR/>Rock on! :)Jonny Cleanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17753866860244594938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-39765884452032548542008-07-22T00:40:00.000-07:002008-07-22T00:40:00.000-07:00Well thanks Hilary, you've certainly added a lot o...Well thanks Hilary, you've certainly added a lot of'extra value' for anyone reading the blog! That green smoothie sounds excellent, and, as a tribute to your effort, will make it today! (using fresh pineapple - um, blogged on that... :-)) Best wishes, and hope that you'll comment again on future posts.Debbie Tookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-47195652704134436822008-07-21T22:26:00.000-07:002008-07-21T22:26:00.000-07:00Will do. I honestly wish I remember where I heard ...Will do. I honestly wish I remember where I heard the info about pesticides and wheat so maybe I could trace it back to something with some proof.<BR/><BR/>Also a couple more good resources (I started to go to sleep and it was bugging me):<BR/><BR/>Info on raw dairy - http://www.realmilk.com<BR/><BR/>Good educational book on allergies - "The Allergy Self-help book" by Sharon Faelten<BR/><BR/>That book has a lot of useful information though maybe not info you want to follow to a T but worth reading. For example there's a whole page on potential sources of hidden corn for people with corn sensitivities/allergies and it does also talk about allergies to food dyes and includes references about food families (I have sensitivities but not a flat out allergy to the melon/gourd family. Raw or cooked, organic or not I have to be careful with these and I don't mean a nasal allergic reaction to those.)<BR/><BR/>And since I feel like I went a little anti-raw on you in my previous comments - before I go, my favorite raw green smoothie (makes 2-3 servings so share with a friend): <BR/>- Juice one apple (I like fuji or gala), one bunch of celery and one cucumber. <BR/>- Pour in a blender and add a few handfulls of spinach and frozen pineapple chunks and blend it all together.<BR/><BR/>That and an apple "waldorf salad" made with yogurt (little to no mayo), walnuts and raisins are probably my favorite raw foods.Hilary Baumannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16029216197873606359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-15601565831607745392008-07-21T21:48:00.000-07:002008-07-21T21:48:00.000-07:00Interesting, Hilary. If you see anything firm (is...Interesting, Hilary. If you see anything firm (ish, ie in print) on the wheat allergy/pesticides thing could you let me know? (perhaps via gi2mraw) As I'd then use it to update the wheat article. Thanks!Debbie Tookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-31511762877431248042008-07-21T21:24:00.000-07:002008-07-21T21:24:00.000-07:00I did see that article on the sprouted wheat and I...I did see that article on the sprouted wheat and I do agree it's a completely different thing. I had forgotten about that when I mentioned flour. <BR/><BR/>I do sometimes also buy the Food for Life Ezekiel bread which is different from your article since it does eventually get cooked instead of dehydrated but it is a sprouted grain bread. It's not raw but it is better than most plain breads. <BR/><BR/>Sourdough should also be better than plain bread but there aren't many places that make real sourdough anymore. I created my own starter and made one batch that was too dense and then accidentally dropped the starter jar ... haven't gotten around to creating a new sourdough starter yet. <BR/><BR/>I'm thinking that real fermented foods might also chemically change things for the better but I haven't spent much time testing that on myself yet. There are some people both into raw and not who think that fermentation is a great thing (kimchi, real saukraut for folks into raw depending on their POV.) I have no idea what effect real fermented foods might have on the allergies (though it may depend on the types of allergies and the types of fermented foods.)<BR/><BR/>Something else I'll go ahead and mention is that I've heard rumors (no studies to back this one up) that part of the reason more people are being diagnosed with celiac disease (allergy to wheat gluten) MAY be in part due to the pesticides used on most wheat. Not saying that this is not the only problem but there are a lot of things that can factor in.<BR/><BR/>Wow - sorry about the somewhat random bits of info. I could probably talk for days about allergies!Hilary Baumannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16029216197873606359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-88162720636242569852008-07-20T14:59:00.000-07:002008-07-20T14:59:00.000-07:00Many thanks, Hilary, for sharing your experiences ...Many thanks, Hilary, for sharing your experiences - it's certainly true that raw and pasteurised milk have quite different effects on the body, and I agree that anyone who is not a raw foodie and suffering from bronchial problems would do well to try cutting out pasteurised milk. <BR/><BR/>Wheat and grains certainly do cause problems with some people when cooked, but wondered if you'd tried wheat raw and sprouted, and if you'd seen my article 'Give Wheat a Chance' in the April archive. <BR/><BR/>Good point about the flour (that reasoning, as you may know,is very 'natural hygiene') but pity about bananas!Debbie Tookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345367033617524547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227591395966495076.post-13658981482779570972008-07-20T14:18:00.000-07:002008-07-20T14:18:00.000-07:00For me, raw milk, less stress, some other small ch...For me, raw milk, less stress, some other small changes in diet and regular exercise has been what has helped my allergies. My story is somewhat similar to yours except that I also got bronchitis and pneumonia yearly until this last fall. Allergy shots didn't work, OTC meds typically didn't work with a few exceptions (double doses of things you shouldn't double dose.) And never had a single perscription medication work for me either.<BR/><BR/>In general, finding out what makes you personally healthier is the key whether it's going 100% raw or making several other changes.<BR/><BR/>For me I know that the dairy is a significant factor. I went off raw dairy for awhile (my farmer's milking machine blew up and I had to wait for the cows to calf) and during those 5 months I had allergy attacks again. I wasn't constantly sniffly however. The raw milk for me is one of the keys for me along with the rest of the changes.<BR/><BR/>I HAVE added in more raw to my overall diet but I'm not super raw by any means, I have also found a few foods that trigger allergy symptoms for me if I eat too much of them. Wheat and grains primarily... I've tried going completely without but I see the most significant change when I keep it to a bare minimum and don't stress about eating a cookie now and again. <BR/><BR/>I have noticed that some of the foods I've reduced eating are often not edible by anyone if uncooked (handful of flour anyone?) But I also have allergies to other foods if they aren't cooked (bananas - I can eat them cooked but I can't uncooked... long story but it has to do with starches.)<BR/><BR/>Anyway - I wanted to mention this for those people who don't think they can handle 100% raw vegan. <BR/><BR/>Keeping a food journal could also help you figure out what works for you.<BR/><BR/>And one more note for people who aren't raw foodies who are reading this: if you want to become raw you might want to do it gradually instead of diving in headfirst, getting fed up with it and giving up on it completely. Often people try to change too quickly and then don't stick to it (there are exceptions though. Some people can do it and stick to it.)<BR/><BR/>Thank you for sharing your experiences with this - I do think it's going to help people!!!Hilary Baumannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16029216197873606359noreply@blogger.com